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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2026 12:52 pm 

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Do you think apple engineers take bets on how many different sizes types and hidden screws they can fit into every product?


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 Post subject: Re: Apple engineers
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2026 1:54 pm 
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Unpopular as it is to say on a site like this, 99% of users have no business being inside their electronics: ever!
This from a right to repair advocate.

I’m a developer, not an engineer: but I’ll pass on the general premise from them as relayed to me.
If you’re smart enough to fix the device, you are smart enough and resourceful enough to both find the screws and the proper method to extract them.
It’s a split premise for me . I get it. From both sides.
Personally, I have always supported an absolute inalienable right to repair when I purchase.
But I believe as for me, and as for all that the moment you open your device, you should completely absolutely undeniably and irrevocably end you’re right to any warranty

Fixing a modern iPhone at consumer level is rather easy today with the right tools
The single board a single battery single screen single io port etc. But think about taking apart an Apple Watch or a Health ring. The digital control system of a modern refrigerator or washing machine or dishwasher.
Try taking apart a bifold or trifold Cell phone where each board depends on the others

That’s a long way from the eight bit computers, video game systems trash, compactors and analog systems that I regularly find myself repairing
And where I have the ability to reflash the controller on a memory board that a separate main board depends on… do you?
And though you can figure it out if you make a mistake, we need to indemnify the manufacturer from public stupidity if you get my point


And let me take a very brief moment to put to death a widely held misconception
Companies like Samsung and Apple et cetera make very very little money on repairs
With the majority of consumers taking extended repair service contracts and insurance, e.g. AppleCare, Apple generally loses money
Replacing a broken screen is $75 for a $250 dollar screen
I just had completely cracked back glass replaced on an iPhone 15 pro Max for my nephew
Apple swap the phone instead of repairing the glass: sure they will eventually use the parts somewhere else.
The consider the back glass cost to them about 80 in the charge on AppleCare was $25
Companies are not blocking repair to make money un repairs
They’re blocking repair because they’re afraid of the cost of stupidity that comes in the form of lawsuits

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 Post subject: Re: Apple engineers
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2026 4:27 pm 

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Im much better at taking things apart than putting them together! That said, I also often have to hand manufacture parts for my gem cutting equipment as some of it no longer exists!
From a scrapping standpoint some of the tech is so overenginered. Taking apart some apple server towers. Aluminum shells on a light steel frame. Getting into them to get at the different boards and separate the metals is a bit of a mess. Tight spaces and a dozen different fasteners and methods.


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 Post subject: Re: Apple engineers
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2026 7:16 pm 
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Have to comment. I agree. You attempt to repair. Warranty over with. Here is a true life story. Simple as it may seem. I did basic rental maintenance for friend of mine. They were 1 hour from the location. Me. 5 minute walk. Ok. No problem I will look in every now and then. Just take complaints. Fix minor stuff. Call the right people for "the" repair. The apartment was outfitted with brand new appliances. So. First tenant after the brand new makeover. Hey. Wouldn't you know it. I get the call. "My refrigerator quit working." Ok. I show up. Look over the basics. Circuit breaker? Is it really plugged in? Is it level? That kind of stuff. So. I google the refrigerator. Make. Model. Serial number. It is under a recall. For the exact same thing I got the call on. Two options. Take it back for a free repair. Or get a check written for such and such amount. Then the dude renting shares with me how he "had knowledge" to repair it. He looked into a few things. ONE OF THEM WAS PULLING THE COVER OFF THE CONTROLLER BOX. Oh well. Case over.
Needless to say. No compensation.
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